#Mount and blade warband defecting lords how to#
I played native warband awhile ago and remember that most lords eventually leave the continent, so I understand this is somewhat normal, but the problem here is that lords do not leave Westeros, they continue to join the same faction they got kicked out of over and over again which makes every lord of that kingdom lose relation with the ruler until even the most loyal and easy to please lords get indicted of treason, where they eventually join me, a ruler who doesn't indict everyone of treason and knows how to keep lords happy and I can hand out fiefs instantly instead of every 3-4 days like the ai.
#Mount and blade warband defecting lords Patch#
I didn't use any tweaks or cheats (I have it disabled), I used the 4GB patch on the. V1.172 steam version, AWOIF v2.0 and updated to v2.1 Even when I reject lords, some lords will still flee to my kingdom and become part of it even if they hate me, probably because they have nowhere else to go. I never fought the Reach and they haven't had a war with anyone for several hundred days and you can see they self-destructed, nobody has fiefs and everyone hates Mace Tyrell. The problem started showing signs as early as a few hundred days into the game, it's just that now I've grown too powerful because all the other kingdoms keep losing lords and they all join me.
You can see all the other factions have over half their fiefs unoccupied, making it very easy to take their land and defeat their lords since lords without fiefs usually have low troops. Here's a screenshot of my Faction Relations Report around 650 days into the game: As a bonus I also took the screenshot with caravans/farmers getting stuck at Hag's Mire Ferry going back and forth from Pyke. Everyday there's probably at least one lord getting indicted for treason. There's also a script error that occurs every time a lord gets indicted for treason and you can see Yara Greyjoy of the Reach fleeing to the Reach. Relation drops should be lower or removed for lords with personalities that cause them to lose relation every time they don't get a fief. Rulers imo take too long to hand out fiefs. I think reducing the relation drop when lords are indicted with treason should be lower or completely negated and lords should stop joining the same kingdom they got thrown out of. This only happens on "Normal War" since lords cannot defect or join other kingdoms on "Static War". The strange thing is, eventually lords who get indicted of treason will flee to the very same kingdom they just came from, so treasons get handed out pretty much everyday. When enough lords gets indicted for treason, eventually most everyone starts defecting or getting indicted for treason and the whole cycle happens again but at a faster rate each time until kingdoms are left with several unoccupied fiefs and every lord hates each ruler. Eventually, when their relation is low enough, the ruler will indict that lord of treason, which causes every other lord to lose I think -2 relation.
When the lord joins a new kingdom, their relationship with the new ruler is for example 0 and continues to go down so long as they don't get a fief (and some lords, depending on their personality, lose relation every time someone else gets a fief) it usually takes a few days for a ruler to hand out a fief, so if multiple lords join that kingdom, it's easy to see how lords can lose relations. How to reproduce it/when/why it happens: Lords becomes dissatisfied with their ruler fairly easily in this game, but the thing that really causes it to accelerate occurs when lords defect or join another kingdom, usually after a kingdom starts losing land and lords become dissatisfied because they don't hold any fief. Bug description: Basically, as the game progresses, lords slowly become dissatisfied with their ruler and the ruler eventually indicts them of treason, which causes other lords to become dissatisfied in a death spiral that cripples the kingdom.